{"id":1818,"date":"2010-03-08T08:09:45","date_gmt":"2010-03-08T12:09:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/shermandorn.com\/wordpress\/?p=1818"},"modified":"2010-03-08T08:09:45","modified_gmt":"2010-03-08T12:09:45","slug":"sour-grapes-agreement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/shermandorn.com\/?p=1818","title":{"rendered":"Sour-grapes agreement"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/03\/08\/opinion\/l08ravitch.html\">Michael Olneck and Peter Sacks turn petty<\/a> in letters to the editor about Diane Ravitch that the <i>New York Times<\/i> printed today. Wow. I agree with Ravitch on a number of things and disagree with her on a number of things, some of which is in our area of expertise (history of education) and some of which falls outside the history of education. But I&#8217;m not sure why Sacks in particular is turning on the venom spigot. Well, actually, I do have some hypotheses about general hostility to her I&#8217;ve occasionally seen (as opposed to disagreement): she caricatured the field of history of education in a sloppy late-70s publication sponsored by the National Academy of Education, and along with Patricia Graham she was a woman to get high-status national recognition in the 1970s for her work in education policy at the national level, which heretofore had been a male bastion. (Graham was director of NIE from 1977 to 1979.) The first is a seriously flawed work, but that&#8217;s several decades in the past, and in any case, a particular work should stand or fall on its own merits. I&#8217;ve never seen the second item discussed or even acknowledged.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a related issue here, which is Ravitch&#8217;s position outside traditional faculty. As far as I&#8217;m aware, she&#8217;s never had a tenure-track or tenured faculty position, and she&#8217;s one of the few historians who can say that they published their dissertation commercially before receiving the Ph.D. (<i>The Great School Wars<\/i> was published in 1974; Ravitch received her Ph.D. from Columbia in 1975). For the most part, her books are far more widely read than those of us who have full-time faculty positions, and I think she and Graham are the only historians of education to have held political appointments in the federal government. That&#8217;s an interesting combination of insider and outsider positions.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>When Meier and Ravitch started their joint blog\/conversation three years ago, I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shermandorn.com\/mt\/archives\/000828.html\">briefly referred to this history in writing<\/a>, &#8220;Regardless of various professional views of her scholarship, Ravitch is a recognized voice on education policy. There are plenty of people I correspond with who have fewer claims to expertise, so I can either have a snit-fit about that or deal, and at this point, having a snit-fit is darned close to sexism and uber-testosterone in education policy studies.&#8221; I&#8217;m sorry Olneck and Sacks, and especially Sacks, have made a different choice. <\/p>\n<p>For the record, Sacks is factually wrong when he states, &#8220;Dr. Ravitch fashioned herself into the Ayn Rand of educational policy and rose to fame as a result of a free-market ideology that came into fashion in George W. Bush&#8217;s administration.&#8221; Ravitch&#8217;s appointment was during the first Bush administration, and whatever you might think of Ravitch&#8217;s historical arguments in different books, she&#8217;s a <i>much<\/i> better writer than Rand.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Olneck and Peter Sacks turn petty in letters to the editor about Diane Ravitch that the New York Times printed today. Wow. 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